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Wohltuend sachlich und sensibel hat der Deutsche Ethikrat heute über die religiös motivierte Beschneidung minderjähriger Jungen debattiert. Trotz aller Differenzen einigten sich die Juristen, Theologen und Mediziner auf eine Empfehlung, die praxisgerecht ist: Die Experten wollen die Beschneidung straffrei halten, dies aber mit bestimmten Auflagen wie der Betäubung verknüpfen. Dieser Kompromiss wird den medizinischen wie rituellen Erfordernissen gerecht. Er dürfte bei den meisten Juden und Muslimen Akzeptanz finden.

So lässt sich der Konflikt zwischen Körperverletzung einerseits und den Interessen von Eltern und Kindern andererseits lösen – nicht aber mit einem donnernden Machtwort der Kanzlerin, wie es der israelische Innenminister Eli Jischal gefordert hat. Die Bundespolitiker sollten nun auf Grundlage der Empfehlung des Ethikrates bald einen Gesetzentwurf erstellen und beschließen. Erst dann herrscht für die Betroffenen wieder Rechtssicherheit.

In der Debatte ging es auch um die viel diskutierte Rolle des Staates und wieweit er in Religion und Erziehung eingreifen darf. Zugleich wurde deutlich, dass jüdische und muslimische Eltern auch dann das Kindeswohl im Blick haben, wenn sie die Beschneidung ihrer Söhne wollen. Dies gehört für sie zur religiösen Integration. Dass sie diese Pflicht so ernst nehmen, mag vielen in einer säkularen Gesellschaft fremd erscheinen. Doch auch gegenüber Religionen sind Toleranz und Respekt gefragt.

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  1. We had quite a discussion in Flanders lately when our state health insurance paid back some 2,476 miljoen euro for 25.286 male circomcisions and some readers put in contrast that e.g. a prostate cancer test was not paid back anymore because of the financial crisis.

    http://www.knack.be/nieuws/gezondheid/rituele-besnijdenis-in-opmars-in-belgie/article-4000160826633.htm#reviews

    The Separation between Church and State is one of the key components that the Universal Rights of Humans and the Rights of the Child and the weaker are defended.

    There are many people in Turkey, the Mediterannean and the Middle East that want to get rid of circumcision with boys and girls. And the EU setting a clear beackon by pointing to Universal Rights and the Rights of the Child and the weaker are very important for that matter.

    We non-circumsision minded Europeans and our bystanders in countries where this acti is done have to KEEP ON EXPLAINING AND REPEATING that we stand for things like The Universal Rights and the Rights of the Child and the weaker and why.

    The Universal Rights and the Rights of the Child and the weaker are not just some pieces of paper, nor is coming to conclusions throught them and scientific reasoning and scientific consensus building.

    And we take into account that making it 100% clear that circumcision is illegal, MAY refer circumcision to the ‘kitchen’ and being practised by sadists pedofiles that get excited by the shivering of these kids the moment they start cutting and keep cutting and cutting and the rush of the feeling of utter power over not only the kid but also the parents and the little brothers and sisters of that kid…. well all that is taken into consideration by stating that it should be 100% banned and prohibited because of The Universal Rights and the Rights of the Child and the weaker. And if people would do it in the kitchen, then there is the penal juridic system to deal with that.

    I want to pass on that as anti-circumcision Europeans, we have to learn and become conscient that our rules and way of thinking, The Universal Rights and the Rights of the Child and the weaker, coming to conclusions based on scientific insight and concensus, freedoms, are VERY STRONG BEAKONS.
    We should NOT LET OURSELVES be struck out of balance because of some easy, cheap objections by pro-circumcision people and groups. Train yourself, your family, friends and peers to have their answers on the tip of their tongues when someone surprises you with a ‘I’m going to circumcise our boys and girls… it’s part of our tradition’.
    Be ready to reply that is a scandal and in direct contradiction with OUR tradition of leaving bad traditions behind and keeping only what’s valuable, e.g. The Universal Rights and the Rights of the Child and the weaker.

    Train yourself to be a dam, a defender of insights and freedoms of humanists.

    These Islamiets, Jews and whatever circumcision adepts respect people that STAND for things. Often it is a wake-up call to them: hey … these Western Democrats, Humanists finally they show some stamina !

    Don’t underestimate the power of The Universal Rights and the Rights of the Child and the weaker, the hidden friends and support you might unlock. Don’t underestimate the opponents, but don’t over-estimate them either, nor where you come from or stand for.

    Don’t underestimate the power of your modesty.

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